What should be the next contest at PPM?

Banshee

We have two candidates for contests suggested by our visitors. We plan to start one of them when Open Map Competition #2 submission time is over. One is a Open Map Competition for RA2 suggested by AvianKnight. The other is a TS Voxel Competition suggested by Carnotaurus. Which of them would you like to see first? You choose!

John Galt · Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 3:21 pm Post subject:

Hmm... Would anyone be interested in the best AI competition (for unmodded games, not some mods)) ? I already know two people (three, including me) with custom AIs for YR, who would be willing to participate. I understand this would require far more time than a good map or a voxel...

Banshee · Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 5:16 pm Post subject:

An AI competition would be cool... but how would we rate the submitted AIs if we cannot make it fight each other?

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Kiith-Sa · Rocket Cyborg **Joined**: 26 Oct 2004

You have to get judges that can defeat 7 Brutals in alliance with Superweapons on,and all of them play on urban,sea,inland,island,and mountain map (1 of each) and get average times of judges for all map types with 7 Brutals in alliance and SWs.If there will be AI that will win in all or some games get average times of judges being defeated.

Just an idea.

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John Galt · Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 6:21 am Post subject:

Human judges. Who play a few games against each AI under the same conditions, and the game length is used to rank the AIs.

I know the ranking can take a while, but there's no other way ...

SMIFFGIG · Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 10:32 pm Post subject:

An AI comp would be good unless it was for crappy RA2/YR

so a TS AI comp

It would take a while though (take me a while to complete it anyway)

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W/P · Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 10:26 am Post subject:

all ideas would be good. specially AI

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The DvD · Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 10:57 am Post subject:

AI can be made unbeatable in rules.ini...so there's no good way to rate it's 'performance'

Mike · Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 8:15 pm Post subject:

A Good AI is not unbeatable, A good ai is an AI that gives you a challange, and wins about 30/40% of the games it playes against a good player. With other players, the percentage will vary

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Jah · Commander **Joined**: 23 Nov 2002

TS Voxel. There weren't many ts vxl comps if they ever were...

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The DvD · Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 6:38 pm Post subject:

MyTrust wrote:

A Good AI is not unbeatable, A good ai is an AI that gives you a challange, and wins about 30/40% of the games it playes against a good player. With other players, the percentage will vary

I agree.. a good AI is an AI that does smart attacks at the right moments hitting the right targets..

Clarkson · Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 6:27 pm Post subject:

Indeed. you can never perfect artificial intelligence,so it is impossible to desgin our Dream AI for Tiberian Sun. the AI HAS to be perfect for both factions,striking hard,swift,and fast WHEN and WHERE you least expect it. if the AI Cant win a game,its pathetic...

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