Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:26 pm Post subject:
Embedded C# IDE
Would it technically be possible to implement a lightweight embedded C# IDE inside OpenRa with the OpenRa GUI to be distributed with the SDK so that OpenRa could compile itself?
You could then use C# as scripting language in the map editor instead of lua.
The IDE could even look like you where playing C&C with EVA sounds for compile errors etc. or have the look / style of the current mod.
There is currently no actively maintained open C# IDE on windows (Visual Studio Code does not count, Sharpdevelop is abandoned, Monodevelop cannot be compiled on windows by non-experts).
If you have to use a closed IDE or another OS for open source, it is not really open (faux-open).
Who controls the IDE controls the language. Who controls the language controls the program. QUICK_EDIT
Integrating a C# IDE inside OpenRA sounds completely unfeasible. People have mentioned getting a Lua editor to make life easier, but that's still not really in the realm of possibilities.
Using C# as a scripting language will greatly increase the complexity of map scripting and greatly raise the entry bar.
There are multiple reasons why there are so few C# IDEs and those include the great complexity of making an IDE and the availability of some great ones already. Visual Studio has a free license, so I don't see a problem there. Visual Studio Code is in fact great, is completely free and actually open-source! (Why do you just exclude VSCode out of the gate?)
As far as I gather, you are on Windows, so I don't really get the "using another OS makes it not really open source", sorry QUICK_EDIT
The problem is that there is no such thing as a "lightweight C# IDE" nowadays - IDE environments that meet modern usability/feature requirements are hugely complicated, and require teams of many full time staff to develop and maintain.
Its not surprising that volunteer projects are no longer maintained, because they simply can't keep up.
OpenRA already includes build scripts that can be used for compiling and packaging projects without depending on an IDE. QUICK_EDIT
Integrating a C# IDE inside OpenRA sounds completely unfeasible. People have mentioned getting a Lua editor to make life easier, but that's still not really in the realm of possibilities.
Using C# as a scripting language will greatly increase the complexity of map scripting and greatly raise the entry bar.
There are multiple reasons why there are so few C# IDEs and those include the great complexity of making an IDE and the availability of some great ones already. Visual Studio has a free license, so I don't see a problem there. Visual Studio Code is in fact great, is completely free and actually open-source! (Why do you just exclude VSCode out of the gate?)
As far as I gather, you are on Windows, so I don't really get the "using another OS makes it not really open source", sorry
No. You are wrong. You are just not paying enough attention, sorry. It went under your radar.
"Visual Studio Code" is the name of a closed source project "built on" the the open MIT-source project "vscode".
Just like Xamarin Studio is built on Monodevelop.
They are not the same programs, there are subtle differences. The name, buttons, a few features and the license.
VSC has a very bad closed licence that strictly chains all updates to MS servers and openly allows spying. Read it!
If I wanted to use an abandonend, unmaintained IDE I could use Sharpdevelop.
Visual Studio Code is NOT open source. That is just a simple marketing-trick.
Monodevelop is NOT cross-platform. Another simple marketing-trick.
If we were living in the Dune Universe then Oracle would be House Ordos and Microsoft would be House Harkonnen while Linux would be the small House IX^^
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Embedded C# IDE
