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Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 10:26 pm Post subject:
Rev 550 -- New option has been added at the Preferences ->
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New option has been added at the Preferences -> Normals category. You can now automatically reset the normal value to #0 when you change model (create a new one, open a different one). Note that this option is disabled by default.
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Also Known As: martx Joined: 28 Oct 2016 Location: PH
Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 6:31 am Post subject:
Revisions are part of the 1.4 beta right? And thus usually unstable, how far has the progress for 1.4 has been? It's been 2007 since the announcement came up. And this revision was made because of G-E's autonormals and normals painting thread right? _________________ all my posts before 2020 were made by a 13 year-old, forgive these if you see any, thank you QUICK_EDIT
Joined: 22 Nov 2010 Location: Iszkaszentgyorgy, Hungary
Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 7:14 am Post subject:
Totally unstable. So much totally unstable that I can't even remember the last time I used a "stable" build. And I never had issues. _________________ "If you didn't get angry and mad and frustrated, that means you don't care about the end result, and are doing something wrong." - Greg Kroah-Hartman
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Past C&C projects: Attacque Supérior (2010-2019); Valiant Shades (2019-2021)
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WeiDU mods: Random Graion Tweaks | Graion's Soundsets
Maintainance: Extra Expanded Enhanced Encounters! | BGEESpawn
Contributions: EE Fixpack | Enhanced Edition Trilogy | DSotSC (Trilogy) | UB_IWD | SotSC & a lot more... QUICK_EDIT
The vast majority of bugs fixed in the last 2yrs were as a result of my prodding, only a few of which were insidious like the memory leakage.... and I appreciate Banshee's efforts, I know some took him some time to sort out.
Also Known As: banshee_revora (Steam) Joined: 15 Aug 2002 Location: Brazil
Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 2:42 pm Post subject:
It is not unstable at all nowadays. There might have occasional bugs just like the version 1.38 itself. The term unstable is used because new revisions may suffer heavy reforms that may lead to some instability and it may it take some additional revisions to fix the instability that was created. That kind of reform happened several times with 1.4x, but the last one happened a couple of years ago. QUICK_EDIT
Joined: 22 Nov 2010 Location: Iszkaszentgyorgy, Hungary
Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 9:25 pm Post subject:
G-E wrote:
Since most of these were not hidden bugs by any means, I can only assume most people like Graion prefer to make excuses for the programs malfunctions.
If I'd be you, I'd cool down. I wasn't the one who suggested the glorious idea of completely disabling the possibility to edit the Scale value to crush and burn OpenRA modding altogether ESPECIALLY in a topic which started with explaining what effect that value has there. FYI, Mixer even sets Scale to 1 on voxels copied from TXTs.
And guess what, I haven't thrown a tantrum for days thenafter about your level of full annoyance. Because unlike you I'm not that full of myself. _________________ "If you didn't get angry and mad and frustrated, that means you don't care about the end result, and are doing something wrong." - Greg Kroah-Hartman
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Past C&C projects: Attacque Supérior (2010-2019); Valiant Shades (2019-2021)
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WeiDU mods: Random Graion Tweaks | Graion's Soundsets
Maintainance: Extra Expanded Enhanced Encounters! | BGEESpawn
Contributions: EE Fixpack | Enhanced Edition Trilogy | DSotSC (Trilogy) | UB_IWD | SotSC & a lot more... QUICK_EDIT
Also Known As: banshee_revora (Steam) Joined: 15 Aug 2002 Location: Brazil
Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 10:52 pm Post subject:
The post above from Graion Dilach has been propositally edited by me. I know G-E's behavior is not being pleasant in this forum recently, but this kind of post doesn't help things to get better either. Calm down, Graion. QUICK_EDIT
Also Known As: banshee_revora (Steam) Joined: 15 Aug 2002 Location: Brazil
Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 4:04 am Post subject:
Latest revision should fix this problem, G-E.
G-E wrote:
That's right, I'm an asshole because I use the damn thing and care about how it works..
Your attitude problems are not related to caring about the program at all. It's on how you communicate with other people, mostly ignoring their opinions (or distorting them) to enforce yours instead. That can be quite annoying sometimes. But I'm aware that human beings are able to learn with their own experiences and change their attitude to a better one . Last edited by Banshee on Wed May 10, 2017 5:22 am; edited 1 time in total QUICK_EDIT
I respect opinions that are thoughtful and have rationale behind them, what I don't respect is obstinate/stubborn refusal because of some theoretical possibility that we both know has about zero chance of being important. I'm not sure how to communicate through that.
I snapped at Graion because I immediately understood his line of thinking which was made clear in this thread, he just doesn't care, and his responses are all some variation of that, regardless of whether he himself understands there was a flaw. So how can I take him seriously at that point? Nothing he said had logical basis, what he said was that I'm wrong for wanting something he doesn't want, and he doesn't want it because he doesn't care about it --- and that's not a reason.
PS: GD my understanding of ORA mechanics is pitiful and I admit that, the same can't be said of your RA2 knowledge, so that was in no way some sneaky attempt by me to destroy your beloved platform. And hilariously if ORA changes to RA2's way of rendering voxels, the entire argument will be null I think no? _________________ http://www.moddb.com/mods/scorched-earth-ra2-mod-with-smart-ai QUICK_EDIT
Also Known As: martx Joined: 28 Oct 2016 Location: PH
Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 5:39 am Post subject:
G-E wrote:
Nothing he said had logical basis, what he said was that I'm wrong for wanting something he doesn't want, and he doesn't want it because he doesn't care about it --- and that's not a reason.
No one is wrong for wanting.
Let's just say, he openly speaks about his opinions in public, Banshee told me that GD uses your first interferance with him as to what he thinks (Either he calls you an idiot, like PussyPus and Me, or You G-E as he described you as the Genius who is still back in the year 2000)
yes, I really am an idiot, not all the time, I changed when GD said that, sometimes GD does say things to encourage us that change our actions, I'd even say he's not all that bad, you'll get used to him... _________________ all my posts before 2020 were made by a 13 year-old, forgive these if you see any, thank you QUICK_EDIT
Joined: 22 Nov 2010 Location: Iszkaszentgyorgy, Hungary
Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 10:22 am Post subject:
G-E wrote:
I snapped at Graion because I immediately understood his line of thinking which was made clear in this thread, he just doesn't care, and his responses are all some variation of that, regardless of whether he himself understands there was a flaw. So how can I take him seriously at that point? Nothing he said had logical basis, what he said was that I'm wrong for wanting something he doesn't want, and he doesn't want it because he doesn't care about it --- and that's not a reason.
Yeah, definitely. You said it, so it must be right.
It's impossible to think that I have other reasons of overlooking VXLSE issues completely. It's impossible to think that due to I am actually reading these boards - yes, I really should give up on that habit by now - I am fully aware that Banshee struggles with his PhD thesis for years now - he even shown already enough signs he can't catch up with the communities he's technically involved even - and his time should be better spent on the stuff related to it than some obnoxious user's personal preference on VXLSE who can't live with an issue which is there for years or more.
That probably would imply I'm actually not a heartless and careless bastard enemy of mankind and hurt people's prejudice. They would overlook it by tomorrow anyway. _________________ "If you didn't get angry and mad and frustrated, that means you don't care about the end result, and are doing something wrong." - Greg Kroah-Hartman
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Past C&C projects: Attacque Supérior (2010-2019); Valiant Shades (2019-2021)
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WeiDU mods: Random Graion Tweaks | Graion's Soundsets
Maintainance: Extra Expanded Enhanced Encounters! | BGEESpawn
Contributions: EE Fixpack | Enhanced Edition Trilogy | DSotSC (Trilogy) | UB_IWD | SotSC & a lot more... QUICK_EDIT
Right, because Banshee can't make the decision himself about where to spend his time...
As for your argument about how long a bug or malfunction or inconsistency has existed, again you're arguing that you don't care and that justifies not fixing it. If we humans lived like that nothing would get done, and you'd still be throwing sticks and grunting at your fellow primates. But go on, please explain in more detail how we should just allow grandfathered errors to persist into eternity... _________________ http://www.moddb.com/mods/scorched-earth-ra2-mod-with-smart-ai QUICK_EDIT
Also Known As: banshee_revora (Steam) Joined: 15 Aug 2002 Location: Brazil
Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 12:50 am Post subject:
G-E wrote:
Right, because Banshee can't make the decision himself about where to spend his time...
Of course I can make this kind of decision. But you could also help me to make better decisions instead of wasting my time reading stuff, arguing and moderating due to some obnoxious user's personal preference on VXLSE . QUICK_EDIT
Well let's say you call it a preference, then why not add the functionality as another checkbox like you just did with resetting normals on load? I'm always open to the idea of adding settings, but I wasn't focusing on it since you still haven't made an autonormals button for the toolbar.... _________________ http://www.moddb.com/mods/scorched-earth-ra2-mod-with-smart-ai QUICK_EDIT
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