OS HVA Builder 2.2 WIP 1

XxpeddyxX · Commander **Joined**: 03 Sep 2004

Just tried opening the turret's voxel alone, if I add a new frame it shows 2/0, not 1/2 or 2/2. You try and move the voxel around in the second frame and it forces itself straight back to its original position. Fun times.

G-E · Defense Minister **Joined**: 09 Feb 2015

Sorry maybe...

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XxpeddyxX · Commander **Joined**: 03 Sep 2004

I uploaded a video of the issue, this is after WIP7 too btw, thanks for the effort, it could be the voxel, could be my system I don't know.

G-E · Defense Minister **Joined**: 09 Feb 2015

That is weird, either it's the way you're moving, the surface your mouse is on, or you have something wonky with drivers.

I would try another mouse with lower sensitivity settings in control panel, maybe enable mouse smoothing if possible?

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XxpeddyxX · Commander **Joined**: 03 Sep 2004

Don't think it's the mouse, it only bugs up with frames 2 onwards, everything else is flawless. Also only seems to be an issue with turrets, I can add additional frames to body animations with no problems.

Not sure if it helps but I editted the exact same model before, it wasn't until I decided to reedit that this started happening, but now it's with all models.

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G-E · Defense Minister **Joined**: 09 Feb 2015

And you're editing the turret opening it directly, not opening the whole unit right?

I can't imagine the program cares if a turret is a ****tur.vxl but stucuk can chime in about that. You can try renaming your voxel first? Maybe there's a conflict with section names?

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XxpeddyxX · Commander **Joined**: 03 Sep 2004

Removed the 'tur' from the voxel name and was able to add and edit a second frame just fine. Definitely seems like a xxxtur.vxl issue with the HVA builder.

Saved it and threw it in the game. Works fine however the voxel piece on the second frame looks almost black in some facings, is this a normals issue now?

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G-E · Defense Minister **Joined**: 09 Feb 2015

Yes because hva rotation rotates the normals with it... say you have 2 dot thick rectangle, the normals would have to be the same on both sides...

I made a 4 bladed spinning turret, much like the gap generator, and I replicated the normals on each corner, looked alright. If you are rotating a minigun barrel made of 4 tubes, the best option might be to rotate left 22 degrees from center, and the next frame 22 degrees right. With such little change the normals should still look ok...

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XxpeddyxX · Commander **Joined**: 03 Sep 2004

Yeah I just did that, at least it looks like it's moving, that's all I wanted. Smile

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PussyPus · Commander **Joined**: 14 Jul 2015 **Location**: Egypt

It's nice that GDI's Titan has voxel for legs, is moving voxel section (like walking vehicle or helicopter's rotor) impossible in TS? or is it possible by using hyperpatch or something?

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NucleiSplitter · Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 6:14 pm Post subject:

To answer your question:

Take a look at the Mammoth MKII Walker, it has multiple sections that are animated while being a voxel. So, it's not completely impossible, just positioning the Rotor of a Helicopter or a Propeller of a Plane is the problem, but the WW coded RA2 to have better voxel rendering than TS due to the Nighthawk Transport and other shenanigans WW used it for (Unused Hind, etc.) #Tongue

Anyway, forgive us for the 1 Year Bump of this topic Smile

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E1 Elite · General **Joined**: 28 May 2013

TS engine doesn't support aircraft/heli rotor animation, no hacks for that.
Voxel animated mechs work.

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stucuk · Geek **Joined**: 27 Aug 2002

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Anyway, forgive us for the 1 Year Bump of this topic

Im answering a question asked in 2016.

G-E wrote:

And you're editing the turret opening it directly, not opening the whole unit right?

I can't imagine the program cares if a turret is a ****tur.vxl but stucuk can chime in about that. You can try renaming your voxel first? Maybe there's a conflict with section names?

Looking at the code it will consider the base voxel (As in the one you load) as the main editable one. If you have a vxl/hva which has the same name but with tur at the end (as in if your voxel is Blatur.vxl, it would consider Blaturtur.vxl as the turret).

So it only cares about tur.vxl/tur.hva if its in addition to the file your loading.

Code:

Procedure LoadVoxel(Filename : String);
begin
   VXLChanged := False;

   HVAFrame := 0;
   HVAFrameT := 0;
   HVAFrameB := 0;

   CurrentVoxelSection := 0;

   LoadVoxel2(Filename,'.vxl',VoxelFile,VoxelOpen);
   LoadVoxel2(Filename,'tur.vxl',VoxelTurret,VoxelOpenT);
   LoadVoxel2(Filename,'barl.vxl',VoxelBarrel,VoxelOpenB);

   If VoxelOpen then
   begin
   VXLFilename := Copy(ExtractFilename(Filename),1,Length(ExtractFilename(Filename))-Length(ExtractFileExt(Filename)));
   CurrentVoxel := @VoxelFile;
   CurrentSectionVoxel := @VoxelFile;
   end
   else
   begin
   VXLFilename := '';
   CurrentVoxel := nil;
   CurrentSectionVoxel := nil;
   end;

   LoadHVA(Filename);

   UpdateVoxelList;
   gTimer.ClearAverages;
   gTimer.Refresh;
end;

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Procedure LoadHVA(Filename : string);
begin
   LoadHVA2(HVAFile,HVAOpen,Filename,'.hva');
   If not HVAOpen then
   CreateHVA(VoxelFile,HVAFile);

   CurrentHVA := @HVAFile;

   If VoxelOpenT then
   begin
   LoadHVA2(HVATurret,HVAOpenT,Filename,'tur.hva');
   If not HVAOpenT then
   CreateHVA(VoxelTurret,HVATurret);
   end
   else
   begin
   if HVAOpenT then
   ClearHVA(HVATurret);
   HVAOpenT := false;
   end;

   If VoxelOpenB then
   begin
   LoadHVA2(HVABarrel,HVAOpenB,Filename,'barl.hva');
   If not HVAOpenB then
   CreateHVA(VoxelBarrel,HVABarrel);
   end
   else
   begin
   if HVAOpenB then
   ClearHVA(HVABarrel);
   HVAOpenB := false;
   end;
end;

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Banshee · Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:09 am Post subject:

Will you ever share the source code of this 2.2 WIP 7 version?

stucuk · Geek **Joined**: 27 Aug 2002

Banshee wrote:

Will you ever share the source code of this 2.2 WIP 7 version?

No one asked for it before, so no one got it. But it may not be up to your standards, so i guess no one will contribute.

Note: You will need to remove VXLHVAUnit.pas from the project.

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Banshee · Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:58 pm Post subject:

Thank you! Smile

Ich-Henker · Flamethrower **Joined**: 06 Aug 2015 **Location**: Germany

Well done, nice improvement from the previous versions. Cool

Midian-P · Rocket Cyborg **Joined**: 16 Mar 2018 **Location**: GB

G-E wrote:

Sorry maybe...

sorry for the bump but i get a error when opening the program.

Banshee · Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:00 pm Post subject:

Be more specific and explain every detail you can about this error you get. When it happens, what kind of message you get, if it prevents the program from continuing to run or not and your windows version and graphics card (sometimes the ones from Intel are problematic).

G-E · Defense Minister **Joined**: 09 Feb 2015

If you only download the WIP7 you won't have the other files or directories it needs. It was released purely as a patch to replace the exe in a functioning HVA Builder install.

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