This has nothing to do with CnC at all. This is End of Nations by Petro, not anything CnC by either Westwood or EA.
All in all uninspiring icons.
How do you reason here? I said that the same mind who worked on C&C is responsible for this, neither does it need to be related as you seem to define it. But IMO the "DNA" of this game does resonate more with C&C games that people mod around here, than say Starcraft or Dawn of War etc. You could find things that inspire anywhere, even seemingly umrelated stuff. But your just trolling anyway. Your being very ignorant as you cant even recognise consistent similarities.
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Ah, if it isn't another thread of finding even the most far-fetched similarities between C&C, and a game with whatever ex-Westwood employee (count their janitor in) working on it. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
Pepzi, I'm so tired of your involvement in this community. You always start these stupid threads, trying to piece together shit that doesn't make any sense whatsoever. It goes to show how much you don't know about the End of Nations game and how much you are stuck living in some delusion that everyone here is so interested in the old CnC.
Furthermore, a pure white logo with three points (which looks like some sort of ninja throwing star or some superhero projectile), a golden bird's wings outstretched (haven't seen this one before) with a flame in the middle, and the green icon (which looks like a GLA concept icon) are all pretty much generic ideas.
EDIT: And even furthermore, you failed to address that this is NOT a CnC game and does NOT belong in this forum. Under your terrible and flawed logic, a musician could make a video game but to you he's making a game as a band project and we should all relate the game to the group, not to what the game actually is.
EDIT 2: And yes, EoN takes the CnC formula by having vehicle combat in it, and maybe some form of World Domination Tour. That's pretty much the only similarity between the games. And they're not even the same genre (as EoN plans to be MMO, where CnC has always had a rich singleplayer experience) so your "follows the DNA" argument is invalid. Petro's not even trying to recreate CnC with this game, unlike the creators of Supreme Commander who used Total Annihilation as a base for their own project. Last edited by m7 on Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:45 pm; edited 1 time in total QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:44 pm Post subject:
It's funny because neither is this game is relevant to C&C, but Petroglyph clearly show WHY Westwood was not a great development studio. _________________ DUNK! QUICK_EDIT
This is all I need to say. Pepzi, you're not even worth my time anymore. Even now, I'm wasting my time. _________________ Discord: princess_marisa
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Visuality, people. Visuality. Graphical designs of vehicles.
And why wouldn't people be interested in the old C&C in a C&C community? We are free to be interested in anything, even the old C&C. I'd say the majority of mods in this forum are interested in the old aswell as new (not exclusively, naturally). QUICK_EDIT
Visuality, people. Visuality. Graphical designs of vehicles.
And why wouldn't people be interested in the old C&C in a C&C community? We are free to be interested in anything, even the old C&C. I'd say the majority of mods in this forum are interested in the old aswell as new (not exclusively, naturally).
Visuality, people. Visuality. Graphical designs of vehicles.
So I guess all shooters take DNA from Doom, for having basic designs like HUD or guns? I guess all games also take their DNA from real life, or the first of it's kind to pop up. Terrible argument.
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And why wouldn't people be interested in the old C&C in a C&C community?
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It goes to show how much you don't know about the End of Nations game and how much you are stuck living in some delusion that everyone here is so interested in the old CnC [b]development team.[/b]
Pepzi, for the last time, quit bugging me on MSN about ANYTHING related to Westwood's grand fiction EVER. I'm sick and tired of Kane's "mysterious past" as the under-paid whore of Scrin, how the alien rebels fled to Earth after they had stole a hotdog booth from the Martians, or whatever trippy stories Westwood came up when they were high. I simply don't give a damn about their ridiculous attempt of binding the games together, they failed at it miserably. I was glad when these things were still shrouded in mystery, when we could still make up whatever explanations we wanted (that were a hundred times better than the official ones); now I can't but vomit when I hear of the x-men mutants.
Honestly, I've been tempted to block you just for starting these convos. I'm willing to discuss with you about anything else but this.
Also, Petroglyph =/= Westwood. End of line. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:35 pm Post subject:
Crimsonum wrote:
Pepzi, for the last time, quit bugging me on MSN about ANYTHING related to Westwood's grand fiction EVER. I'm sick and tired of Kane's "mysterious past" as the under-paid whore of Scrin, how the alien rebels fled to Earth after they had stole a hotdog booth from the Martians, or whatever trippy stories Westwood came up when they were high. I simply don't give a damn about their ridiculous attempt of binding the games together, they failed at it miserably. I was glad when these things were still shrouded in mystery, when we could still make up whatever explanations we wanted (that were a hundred times better than the official ones); now I can't but vomit when I hear of the x-men mutants.
Honestly, I've been tempted to block you just for starting these convos. I'm willing to discuss with you about anything else but this.
Also, Petroglyph =/= Westwood. End of line.
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Ah, crimmy, btw, what do you think who Kane is? I think he is an alien mutant from a different dimension where everythings grey. And cause he was in colour, he had to flee the worlds, developing UBER POWERS to survive any shit, cause in reality its just an image while he is still stuck in that dimension, ... ... ...
Come on. I can't even see the similarities between Diablo and SC. Hell. And these two are developed fromt he same studio _________________
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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:33 am Post subject:
Shut the ztype up with the westwood fetish. Stop vomiting this crap every couple months and join us in 2011. _________________ YR modder/artist, DOOM mapper, aka evanb90
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While we're on the subject, does anyone else get weird PMs from Pepzi, like this one?
Pepzi wrote:
I have been thinking, deriving ideas from C&C games, Universe at War (the same minds as C&C), and other sources. Here are my theories:
What does the Nod Scorpion symbolize?
Besides from Nod's combat doctrine, there atleast two other things:
1. It has been said that the Scorpion has changed very little in 400 million years, it's a pinnacle of it's evolution, the perfect killer. That would describe Kane aswell. Kane also fits Nietzsche's description of "überman" that humanity should strive towards, according to him. Kane is Caïn, the murderer.
2. It could also symbolize his personal "crucifixion" of sorts. I will elaborate more on that.
Ancient human DNA was sampled to reverse engineer with the knowledge from alien DNA to create advanced humans. This was done by a highly evolved and advanced human-like aliens
The following is an excerpt from Universe at War Wikipedia:
"The Masari are a race of human-like aliens that have control over the properties of light & darkness.There technology level is eons ahead of any of the races even of the Hierarchy being able to manipulate energy and matter with mere thought. They were once Gods of both The Hierarchy and the humans, but when tensions collided with the Hierarchy, they were nearly forced into extinction, but one city ship was able to escape to Earth. Here they met humanity in it's infant stages and nurtured them into a civilization of different cultures. "
I think this could fit very well in C&C if worked around a bit. I think for example that Kane had X-men like abilities and became power hungry, and used his abilities to kill his brother who sacrificed the best of his flock to the LORD. Kane held the view that the culling of the weak was of the essence. Abels blood was avenged by punishing Kane in the way that he got injected with a needle instrument containing corrupting serum, that would disrupt his innate abilities, effectively stripping him of them. His unlimited life longevity was unaffected, but he was still left vulnerable to death through killing or accidents. Therefore the term "holy blood" has a new meaning. There is vampire game series that has Cain, the father of all vampires BTW. A barrier was setup above the sky, a generated energy field from an unknown source, because the energy was channeled through planets from all directions. The field was unnoticeable and harmless to anyone except Kane, because the fluid in his bloodstream was designed to burst should it converge with the rise through the Earth's atmosphere, killing him in the process. A cure for which he does not have, and no earth human possessed the blood type necessary to replace Kane's. So Kane sought to regain his power, that which could also be magnified through certain technologies.
While we're on the subject, does anyone else get weird PMs from Pepzi, like this one?
Yes me, sadly. And I love the older CnC games from WW despite their flaws (OF WHICH THERE ARE MANY) but I enjoy them just how they are. Pepzi you seem to have some sort of dissorder and strange problem with the older CnC's and especially Westwood, just let it go and stop caring, go outside or something. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:51 am Post subject:
Here's my rundown of the story.
TD: The UN fucked up and made GDI. GDI and Nod fought. GDI won.
TS: GDI and Nod Fought. The Scrin said "ohai" and McNeal banged a mutant. GDI Won.
FS: CABAL got a raging hardon to kill all humanity. GDI and Nod fought. They miraculously put aside their differences and killed CABAL. GDI still won.
TW: GDI and Nod Fought. The Philadelphia got boned by a missile. The Scrin said hi. Again. GDI Won.
KW: Kane cleans house. His racist ass booted out the black man. GDI fucked up and blew the everliving shit out of the planet with the Ion Cannon. GDI and Nod Fought. GDI won.
C&C4: A raging grade A+ clusterfuck. _________________ "Reality is a lovely place, but I wouldn't want to live there." -Adam Young QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:24 pm Post subject:
On the subject of clusterfucks.
If you were skeptical of CNC-3's quality, play CNC-4 for a bit. Beat a campaign, watch every cinematic.
Afterwards, play CNC-3. You'll be able to see that most of its inconsistencies are pretty tiny in the grand picture, and that EA actually tried to make a classic CNC.
(I reinstalled CNC3/KW out of boredom a few days ago) _________________ YR modder/artist, DOOM mapper, aka evanb90
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On the subject of clusterfucks.
If you were skeptical of CNC-3's quality, play CNC-4 for a bit. Beat a campaign, watch every cinematic.
Afterwards, play CNC-3. You'll be able to see that most of its inconsistencies are pretty tiny in the grand picture, and that EA actually tried to make a classic CNC.
(I reinstalled CNC3/KW out of boredom a few days ago)
C&C3 is a good game, a bit tank-spam, but entertaining. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 4:43 pm Post subject:
Oh my God, what hapened with this topic? I don't know if it is about End of Nations or how Pepzi got insane with Westwood, Petroglyph and stuff like that... or how screwed up is the C&C fiction. Anyway, taking into account the title of the post, I've moved it to Game Chat.
As most people wrote here, Petroglyph and Westwood are different things. Petroglyph has no direct relation to the Command & Conquer fiction, even if some of its staff actually worked on very old Command & Conquer games.
No need for it to be crapped. This thread is fun. Been a while since our last good Pepzi bashing. _________________ Discord: princess_marisa
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:47 am Post subject:
Volgin wrote:
YES IT DOES YOU DONT APPRECIATE CANON BANSHEE YOU HERETIC YOU EA SELLOUT.
This thread is an abortion, by the way, Pepzi.
LOL!
I actually like the cannon until the end of Firestorm. I think C&C3 brings a lot of holes and breaks some important elements of the fiction, such as tiberium. Kane's Wrath tries to fix few things and mess up other things. C&C4 destroys it completely. QUICK_EDIT
I think C&C3 brings a lot of holes and breaks some important elements of the fiction, such as tiberium.
At least they explained it without technobabble. In fact, Tiberium looks good without the pods, too. What I didn't like is the supposed fact that it can spread on any surface, which it clearly doesn't do ingame. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
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