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Which Side would you want to win?
The Colony (Giant Ants)
42%
 42%  [ 6 ]
Yuri (YURI IS MASTER!)
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
The Allies (Shake it Baby!)
28%
 28%  [ 4 ]
The Soviets (We will Bury Them!)
28%
 28%  [ 4 ]
Total Votes : 14

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Atomic_Noodles
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Joined: 05 Oct 2011

PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:01 pm    Post subject:  The Colony Wars
Subject description: Giant Ant Side Faction Mod
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The Plan of this Mod is to add in a new Playable Side back to Red Alert 2 : Yuri's Revenge, The Giant Ants from Red Alert 1. As well as adding in some team modifications to the original 3 Factions.

Story: (If I ever get to making a Campaign)
The Giant Ants were somehow able to survive their supposed genocide from Red Alert 1 and have resurfaced from their hiding to cause wreak vengeance upon the human race.. Meanwhile as the Allies and Soviets were struggling with the fight against Yuri. A Sudden new enemy has appeared into the battle. The Giant Ants. Now with Four Sides locked into an epic battle who will emerge victorious?


COLONY (The New Side)
The Colony is a New Side composed of the Giant Ants and their various mutations. The Colony specializes in constant unit rushing and harassment of the enemy by sending out more and more of their units. They do not rely on Power unlike the other conventional Sides but in exchange they have more expensive units & buildings.

PROS & CONS:
+ Bases do not rely on Power
+ All Units and Buildings are immune to Radiation,Regenerate and are very durable

- All Buildings and Units are more expensive
- Cannot capture or use Tech Buildings

COLONY STRUCTURES:
Unlike conventional Armies. The Giant Ants do not use Power, instead they are able to increase their Monetary Income from their "Power Plants" instead. Colony Buildings cannot be captured by Enemy Engineers. (Being too unnatural to properly capture) Their Engineer Equivalent however can still repair buildings. The only Structure exempted from this is their equivalent of a Tech Lab which can still be infiltrated by enemy agents.


Colony Mound - [3000 - 4x4] – Base Expansion Facility
Every Ant Colony needs to start somewhere. This is where they all come from. From this mound. All buildings are planned for construction. So like the other ConYards. This is a prime target.

Ore Mound - [2000 - 2x3] – Ore Processing Facility
Much like the other Ore Refineries. The Ore Mound serves the same purpose as a drop-off point for Ore Collected and to be processed into nutrients to grow the colony swarm.
*Requires Bio Pillar

Passive Ability: Generates 600 Credits per minute.

Bio Pillar - [800 - 2x2] - Power Plant/Support Building
Instead of providing Power to the base like the other 3 Sides the Colony's version instead generates funds to further their war effort. These Buildings function similarly to Oil Derricks albeit watered down, slowly supplying a small amount of credits to the Colony Commander.
*Requires Colony Mound

Passive Ability:Produces 300 Credits per minute.

Hive Cluster - [1200 Credits - 2x2] - Radar Access/Aircraft Facility
The Hive Cluster provides Radar Capability to the Colony. Aside from this, The Colony can use their natural senses to reveal the terrain every few minutes. Aside from this, the Hive Cluster can send out a signal upon visible structures/targets a pheromone which alerts a Trio of Swarm Ants.
*Requires Outpost Hole

Ability - Hive Mind - Every 3 Minutes - For 10 Seconds, you will gain Full View of the Map.


Core Mound - [1800 - 2x3] - Advanced Unit Information Facility
The Core Mound provides to the Colony the ability to train further and stronger Units to be used for combat. Much like the other Battle Labs, the Core Mound also provides some Stolen Tech. Once the Colony Mound is created, Giant Ants created from the Assault Hole are now created more cheaply by 25% due to the streamlining of the genetic code.
- Allows production of:
Tesla Ants
Crusher Ants
Rad Ants
Psychic Ants

Passive Ability: All Units created from the Assault Hole will be created 25% cheaper.

*Allied Theft - Chrono Ant
*Soviet Theft - Tesla Warrior Ant
*Yuri Theft - Magneto Ant
*Colony Theft - Hive Ant



Ant Hole- [800 - 2x2] - Basic Unit Production Facility
The Ant Hole is where all the basic ants are produced by the colony.
*Requires Bio Pillar

Trains:
Scout Ant
Worker Ant
Changeling Ant
Psychic Ant


Assault Hole - [2500 - 2x2] - Advanced Unit Production Facility
The Assault Hole is a production building that allows the larger variant of the Giant Ants to exit from the nest.

Trains:
Warrior Ant
Spitfire Ant
Harvester Ant
Rad Ant
Tesla Ant
Crusher Ant
Beam Ant
Tunnel Ant
Stolen Tech Ants

Armory Buildings

Spitfire Burrow - [1000 - 1x1] – Defense Building (Anti-Air/Basic Ground)
The Spitfire Burrow is the Colony's Answer to a Defense Building. Much like the Gatling Cannon, This Building serves as both Anti-Air and Ground Defense. Every individual Burrow is normally guarded by 2 Spitfire Ants. But if the specific hole is alarmed of increased activity more Spitfire ants are sent to that hole to assist in protecting that section. A maximum total of 6 Ants will be posted on a specific Burrow.
*Requires Outpost Hole

Crusher Burrow - [1500 - 1x1] - Heavy Defense
To help protect Colony Groups against heavy assaults. Some Colonies dig out Crusher Burrows, As the name suggests, within these holes are Crusher Ants on guard providing Artillery Defense. The longer there are enemies within sight of the Burrow the faster the Crusher Burrow will fire their shells.
*Requires Hive Cluster


Colony Wall - [100 - 1x1] - Walling
Much like the other Sides walls. The Colony is able to create Walls themselves. However Colony Walls have the advantage of being able to regenerate and possess far higher durability.
*Requires Outpost Hole

Queen Chamber - [5000 - 4x4] - Superweapon
The Queen Ant is the mother of a colony. When this Building is constructed, the Queen is able to call out a swarm of Warrior Ants to dig under the ground to cause a powerful earthquake damaging enemy units in the target area. Unlike other Superweapons, The Queen Ant is able to protect itself from potential attackers protected by her Tesla & Spitfire Giant Ant Guards.

Ability - SWARM! - Every 10 Minutes - Creates a devastating earthquake underneath the targeted area damaging buildings,vehicles and infantry.

Colony Units
*All Giant Ant units are able to regenerate their Health thanks to their already enhanced mutation and being organic units.
*All Giant Ants are immune to radiation.
*And strangely... Giant Ants are able to traverse water despite their obviously new heavier body weight. So Naval Commanders beware.
*Giant Ants cannot garrison buildings.

COLONY UNITS:

Worker Ant – [800] - Engineer
Easily identifiable with their Black Legs,Antennae & Yellow Eyes, Worker Ants are the Colony's Version of the Engineer, Worker Ants fulfill the same duties as bomb defusing,Building Repair/Capture. Also, Worker Ants can heal Assault Hole. Much like the Scout Ant however they are more susceptible to infantry weapons due to their almost unarmored exoskeleton.
*Requires Outpost Hole & Bio Pillar

Scout Ant - [600] – Basic Infantry/Scout/Detector
Scout Ants are the the most lightly armored of all Ants, however they possess the best speed. Comparable to Terror Drones. The Scout Ant also attacks by spitting out rapidly sharp bits of shrapnel.
*Requires Outpost Hole

Changeling Ant - [1200] - Spy
The Changeling Ant is a strange variant as they can emit an optical illusion that lets them blend in with humans. Much like the Worker & Psychic Ant this Giant Ant has learned how to speak. Like other Spy Units, the Changeling fulfills the same role of Building Infiltration.
*Requires Outpost Hole & Core Mound

Psychic Ant - [2000] – Mind Control Unit
The Psychic Ant functions similarly to the Master Mind, albeit somewhat much better. For one thing the Psychic Ant does not overload. However they can only control up to 3 Units.
*Requires Core Mound

Digger Ant - [3200] - MCV
The Digger Ant is the unit responsible for building up Colonies. Much like the same role as to the other Three Sides using MCVs. However unlike other MCV's the Digger Ant can defend itself. Thanks to its large strong mandibles.
*Requires Core Mound

Tunnel Ant - [2500] - Support Unit
The Tunnel Ant is at best, considered a support unit. Once available they are able to dig into the ground creating an Assault Hole at the Ground.
*Requires Assault Hole,Hive Cluster & Core Mound

Harvester Ant – [1700] - Miner
The Harvester Ant fulfills the role of Ore Miner to the Colony. Carrying the much needed gold to process into nutrients to further the growth of a colony. Much like the War Miner, the Harvester Ant can defend itself from would-be attackers. They can carry up to 800 Gold or 1600 Gems.
*Requires Ore Mound

Warrior Ant – [1000] - Basic Tank
The Main Attack Unit of the Colony, Warrior Ants fight in close combat similar to the brute. These Ants possess a thick exoskeleton and they always tend to be sent in groups.
*Requires Ant Hole

Spitfire Ant - [800] – Anti-Air
The Spitfire Ant is probably the first major range unit a Colony will be able to deploy. Spitfire Ants also perform the role of Guard Duties(Spitfire Burrow) due to their versatility as being Assault and Defense Units.
*Requires Ant Hole

Tesla Ant - [1800] - Assault Unit
These Giant Ants were a high threat back in Great World War II, and they still are now, Owing to the natural electricity they generate within their bodies. The Tesla Ant boasts heightened movement and the natural ability to shoot Tesla Bolts from their Antennae.
*Requires Core Mound

Crusher Ant - [1500] - Artillery/Siege Unit
The Colony's answer to siege Units. The Crusher Ant is a unit able to lob large rocks towards their enemies from long distances. Much like Spitfire Ants. Some Crusher Ants are deployed as Guards (Crusher Burrow) for their Colonies.
*Requires Core Mound

Rad Ant – [1000] - Suicide/Assault Unit.
These Breed of Giant Ants were first found near Nuclear Facilities. After emerging, combat footage showed that these Ants are able to project a beam of radiation similar to the Desolator. Later footage also showed that when defeated they explode violently much in the same fashion as Demolition Trucks killing/damaging any other Ants or Enemies.
*Requires Core Mound

Swarm Ant - [1000] - Aircraft
The Airborne Unit of the Colony. The Swarm Ant attacks by bombarding their targets with shrapnel they can spit out at their enemies. Unlike other aircrafts. Swarm Ants are much more durable and still posses the same speed rivaling Harriers,MiGs & to a lesser extent... Yuri's Blaster Disk
*Requires Hive Cluster

Beam Ant - [2500] – Hero Unit
The Beam Ant is a Giant Ant that fires a concentrated laser beam at their enemies, the longer they focus on a target the more damage they deal.This Laser almost always kills infantry instantly and is very effective against Buildings and Vehicles. Beam Ants are a special breed and only one can be bred by a colony. (or two if they have an Assault Hole)
*Requires Core Mound

SOVIET CHANGES

USSR
The Main Faction of the Soviet Empire. The USSR has access to high-tech Tesla Weaponry and Robotics Research has lead them to becoming the leading experts when it comes to robotic weaponry.

Hero Unit: Boris

Unique Units:

Tesla Tank
*Requires Radar Tower & War Factory

Confederation
The Confederation is the Main Military Superpower of the Soviet Union on some parts of the east,west and mainly the middle-east. Backed up by Cuba,Iraq and Libya as it's main Nations the Confederation excel in demolitions technology and nuclear weapons.

Hero Unit:
Black Scorpion (Acrassicauda) - [1500] - Hero
Armed with a specialized Rad Cannon. The Black Scorpion is the Confederation's Hero Unit. Trained in the skill of sniping, The Black Scorpion is able to pick off enemy infantry & vehicles easily from the distance. For taking out key structures, the Black Scorpion is able to call in a Weak but still powerful Tactical Nuke by pointing his laser at it.

Unique Units:

Terrorist - [1000] - Covert Unit
After noticing the higher losses and inefficiency of the Terrorist Program. The Terrorist Program was revamped heavily. Terrorists were now trained in the arts of disguise similar to Allied & Soviet Spies. Along with this they were trained in the arts of demolition, destroying an enemy's base from within. Should they be discovered the packs of C4 they carry can be used as a last ditch effort of taking enemies along with them.
*Requires Radar Tower & Barracks

Nuke Cannon - [1500] - Siege Unit
The Nuke Cannon is the Confederation's Answer to a Long-Range Siege Unit,Unlike the V3 Launcher, the Nuke Cannon must be deployed for it to attack. When not deployed they are but easy targets. But when deployed the can fire off powerful nuclear shells that explode leaving behind a field of radiation.

Imperial Nations
The Alliance formed by the Eastern Soviet Nations, namely North Korea & China. The Imperial Nations play as the key faction fighting for the Eastern Area for the Soviet Superpower.

Hero Unit:

Unique Units:

Unique Buildings:

SHARED CHANGES:

Repair Drone - [700] - Repair Unit - Vehicle
Further research in Robotics in the Soviet Union has allowed the Scientists to further improve their drone technology. The Repair Drone is a small hovering Unit that is armed with a small arm that can repair vehicles. Naturally thanks to their small frame and hover technology a Repair Drone can traverse water but also possesses very little armor.
*War Factory & Service Depot

*Tesla Troopers can now garrison and clear civilian buildings.

*The Spy is now a shared unit between the Allies & Soviet.
(Soviets use KGB Operatives)

*All Crazy Ivan type units can now throw their bombs a short distance and can promote themselves improving their throwing skills.

ALLIED CHANGES

EUROPEAN ALLIANCE
Backed up by the United Kingdom,Germany & France, The European Alliance forms the main forces of the Allies in the European Sector of the World.

Hero Unit:

Unique Units:


Grand Cannon - Defense Building

EASTERN ALLIANCE

Hero Unit:

Unique Units:

WESTERN FRONT

Hero Unit: Tanya

Unique Units:

SHARED CHANGES

*Guardian GI's can now garrison buildings.

*SEAL can now clear Occupied Enemy Buildings

*Allies can now also build their own version of Tank Bunkers & Battle Bunkers

YURI CHANGES


Infiltrator - [1000] - Spy
Even Yuri has joined into the Espionage Game. While both the Allied and Soviet Factions rely on Spies who use Disguise Kits. Infiltrators instead use a Pocket Stealth Generator that lets them hide completely from their enemies.Attack Dogs are still able to sniff out Infiltrators though so be vigilant for tracking these Covert Soldiers.
*Immune to Mind Control
*Requires Battle Lab

Blaster Disk - [900] - Aircraft
The Blaster Disk is Yuri's answer to a Jet Unit. Much to Yuri's liking for Old Sci-Fi Movies the Blaster Disk is also based on the UFO. Owing to It's lighter and smaller frame, The Blaster Disk has faster movement and allows it to fly more quickly letting it to travel faster than conventional aircraft's. However due to its miniaturization The Blaster Disk has only enough power to send out a single blast of energy and must return to the Disk Pad to Recharge the Cannon.
*Requires Disk Pad

Yuri Disk Pad - [1200 - 2x3] - Aircraft Building/Maintenance
Even Yuri has decided to assimilate a True Aerial Unit into his Army. This building lets Yuri build his own brand of Aircraft join in the fight.
*Requires Psychic Radar


Attack Dog - [400] - Detection/Anti-Infantry
Noticing how his lack of attack dogs has sometimes let spies slip into his base. Yuri now trains Attack Dogs of his own to help protect his bases.
*Requires Barracks

*Giant Squids are now part of Yuri's Naval Force

*Chaos Drones now attack by shooting their Chaos Gas by a Grenade Launcher, They also explode chaos gas upon destruction.

*Yuri Clones are renamed to Psi Corp

*Virus can now garrison & clear civilian buildings.

The Floating Disk's Laser is now Green (to make the infantry death more sense)

Stolen Tech Units

Colony

Magneto Ant - [2000] - Controller Unit - "Vehicle"
Another type of Ant created by experiments from Yuri Scientists. Magneto Ants are able to project a magnetic beam similar to the Magnetron.
*Gained by sending a Changeling Ant to an enemy Yuri Battle Lab.

Tesla Warrior Ant - [1500] - Assault Unit - "Vehicle"
A Tesla Ant that was captured and experimented on by Soviet Scientists. This Powerful ant retains the durability and deadly bite of the Warrior Ant but now has the electric powers of the Tesla Ant.
*Gained by sending a Changeling Ant to an enemy Soviet Battle Lab

Chrono Ant - [1200] - Assault Unit - "Vehicle"
A Giant Ant implanted with Chrono Technology by Allied Scientists. The Chrono Ant attacks much in the same manner as any Warrior Ant. But instead of crawling like other ants this Giant Ant can simply shift in time. Should a Changeling Ant infiltrate an Allied Battle Lab this unis is available for their use.
*Gained by sending a Changeling Ant to an enemy Allied Battle Lab

Hive Ant - [2000] - Assault Unit - "Vehicle"
Another breed of the monstrous Giant Ant. Owing to their Gigantic Size, The Hive Ant is able to crush most Vehicles, except for the gigantic ones like the infamous Battle Fortress,Apocalypse Tank & the Master Mind. Another feature this Giant Ant possesses is the ability to send out Groups of Swarm Ants to attack for it. Due to this symbiotic relationship with Swarm Ants it has lost the ability to attack itself and instead commands these specific Ants to do his bidding.
*Gained by sending a Changeling Ant to an enemy Colony Core Mound

Allied Units

Chrono Commando
*Gained by sending a Spy to an enemy Allied Battle Lab

Tesla Commando - [1500] - Assault Unit - Infantry
The Tesla Commando is the birth of merging Soviet Tesla Weaponry and elite commando training by the Allies. The Tesla Commando is armed with a Tesla Cannon, just shy of the Tesla Tank along with some C4 Charges to take out buildings. Due to their heavier Armor, they cannot be crushed by Tanks and lose the ability to swim.
*Gained by Sending a Spy to an enemy Soviet Battle Lab

Psi Commando
*Gained by sending a Spy to an enemy Yuri Battle Lab

Prism Ant - [1800] - Siege Unit - "Vehicle"
The Prism Ant is a breed of Giant Ant, most closely related to the Beam Ant. Unlike the Beam Ant, the laser they emit instead spreads out much like Prism Tanks.
*Gained by sending a Spy to an enemy Colony Core Mound

Soviet Units

Chrono Ivan
*Gained by sending a Spy to an enemy Allied Battle Lab.

Tesla Vanguard - [1200] - Support Unit - Infantry
Only by reverse-engineering Soviet Tesla Technology from defected Soviet Commanders are these new infantry available.The Tesla Vanguard are slow moving infantry who wield powerful Cannons which fire devastating Tesla Shells. The sheer weight of the ammunition and the gun slows them down and takes time to load the weapon but results have shown they are devastating against grouped units and structures.
*Gained by sending a Spy to an enemy Soviet Battle Lab.

Magnet Vanguard - [1200] - Support Unit - Infantry
The Magnet Vanguard are an elite group of Heavy Assault Troopers. Available only to Soviet Commanders who have stolen Yuri's Magnetic Technology through their Agents. Magnet Vanguard are armed with the same powerful magnetic beam by Yuri's Magnetrons.
*Gained by sending a Spy to an enemy Yuri Battle Lab.

Colossus Ant - [2000] - Assault Unit - "Vehicle"
Superior Soviet research has yielded them this giant Ant. The Colossus Ant is what some may say a successor to the Volkov Program. The Colossus Ant is fitted out with cybernetic inhibitors to keep it in from going rogue against Soviet Commanders. Along with this the cybernetics that also keep it in place also enhance the Ant's powers. The Colossus Ant is armed with the same weapons Apocalypse Tanks wield.
*Gained by sending a Spy to an enemy Colony Core Mound

Yuri Units

Chrono Corp - [1200] - Support Unit - Infantry
After stealing Allied Technology, namely the Chrono Pack Tech. Yuri is able to manufacture them to his Psi Corp Troopers.Select Psi-Corps are often drafted by Yuri's Commanders who have obtained this Stolen Tech. They offer the same powers of a normal Psi Corp but now have the convenience of being able to warp through time to travel more quickly.
*Gained by sending a Infiltrator to an enemy Allied Battle Lab.


Tesla Corp - [1200] - Assault Unit - Infantry
These special units serve Yuri's Army as assault units instead of providing Mind Control. Tesla Corps are able to project lightning bolts from their fingers of which they can send it to kill enemies. By equipping Tesla Technology hidden in their Robes they are able to channel Tesla Bolts that rival Tesla Tanks. Due to the heaviness of the Tesla Packs and their lack of physical strength. Tesla Corps do not wear armor. But however have great mobility thanks to their levitating powers.
*Gained by sending a Infiltrator to an enemy Soviet Battle Lab.

Psi Prodigy - [1500] - Support Unit - Infantry
The Psychic Corp has long always been Yuri's greatest asset in his Army. Psi Prodigy's are select Troopers who show promising talent and are given permission to further enhance their psychic abilities with Psychic Technology and further training. Unlike Psi Corp Troopers, Prodigy's can control up to 3 Units and have superior Range. However they are implanted with psychic inhibitors to keep their psychic powers at bay from trying to mind control too much or being able to mind control buildings much like Yuri.
*Gained by sending a Infiltrator to an enemy Yuri Battle Lab.

Dominator Ant - [1500] - Suicide Unit - "Vehicle"
By miniaturizing the Psychic Dominator Device into a more mobile version. Yuri can attach it to his captured Giant Ants. Much like the Psychic Dominator this contraption attached to the Giant Ant allows Yuri to fully control those within the Blast Radius and destroying any buildings within it. Should the Giant Ant be killed the Mobile Psychic Dominator will still detonate.
*Gained by sending a Infiltrator to an enemy Colony Core Mound

Credits
YR Argentina - Hosting the various SHP,Voxels I will be using.
Westwood - For creating Red Alert 2 & Yuri's Revenge
Adobe - For making Photoshop CS5
Mental Omega - For providing some Inspiration for this Mod and some elements.
Mooman's Mod - For providing some Inspiration for this Mod and some elements.

MadHQ
-Allied & Yuri Battle Bunker,Soviet Tank Bunker
-Repair Drone

Dark_Elf_2001 - Deployable Sniper & Tesla Commando
ZombyDragon - Steel Desolator (Prism Legion)
Azri_Apoc - Mig29 (MiG)
napalm - Dozer
Mig Eater - Manta Ray (Sea Stalker)
The I Man - Attack Dog
Chrono Loony - Parasite SHP
Speeder - Yuri Airpad

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Scorched Earth
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I'm interested to see how this turns out.

Provided you don't disappear and this dies, as most new members and mods do..

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I won't be disappearing that quickly, I'll probably suffer from some difficulties early on. (I.E: Voxel Editing, Coding) But I'll stick it through. Besides... I'm also waiting for Mental Omega 3.0 Laughing

My main problems with Voxeling is well... I'm going to be a total newb at it.

I have had some experience doing some pixel art so that might come in handy in doing Voxel Art, I was thinking Voxeling to basically be "3D Pixel Art" from what I see in some Tutorials. I found an Ant Model though, I'd just be doing some minor edits on it too. (Color Remapping the Ants, Making specific limbs bigger, etc.)

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Now, I don't wanna completely shit all over your concept, but why not add the ants to Yuri?

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

A better question: Why add the ants to Yuri?

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Darkstorm wrote:
A better question: Why add the ants to Yuri?

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yuri is already an offshoot from the soviets, so adding the ants to Yuri would make it 3 Soviet-ish sides and one Allied side. #Tongue
Doesn't seem quite fair.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 2:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Ironically... I'll be reusing Yuri's EVA for his Advisor... although I'll make it sound like he's on Helium. Laughing
Keeping his Victory Screen too, Unless I can somehow find someone to help me do 3D Model's. And help me do a Icon similar in style to RA2's Faction.


And I'm trying to make their own GUI, A Redesigned version of the GUI of Red Alert 1.

Each of the Original 3 and the Colony will be able to unlock specialized Giant Ants (Stolen Tech)

The Prism Ant - Prism Tank with Better Armor

Colossus Ant - Apocalypse Tank with Better Speed

Dominator Ant - Psychic Dominator in Demo Truck Form

Hive Ant - *American Accent* LAND AIRCRAFT CARRIER!!! with *Scottish Accent* BATTLE FORTRESS CRUSHING!!! Twisted Evil

Also, I'm wondering whats the Size of the Icons of the Mini Side Logo and the Flag? Since I can do that myself.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Also... none of the ants attack with piss. Obvious Fail is Obvious.

They can however Taze Bites, Normal Bite,Throw Fireballs, Shoot Lasers,Lightning Bolts,Mind Control,Shoot Shrapnel,Hyper Accelerated Rocks,Radiation Beams,Psychic Waves, but no Piss is obviously flawed and pointless.

Monkeys on the other hand they throw poop. And poop on your face is an obvious disgrace. So for you Untrue, your poo is due.

Splitted Untrue's post and replies to that post - Dutchy

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Don't use yellow text. It's nigh invisible with the default forum skin.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yeah just noticed that now after trying out the different profiles. I'm finally sorta semi-done getting the placeholder units in then I can start a test run.

I'm changing their Team Color to Orange now.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

In general it looks really good,are you having any progress that you can show in screenshots? Confused

anyways, it doesn't look like an bit strange to have the colony soo close to what other side construction systems?


@Fen: AWYEH! #Tongue

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Have you thought of a super weapon for the ants yet? You could make like an earthquake weapon or something, where they tunnel under the enemy base and collapse it.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

For Balance Reasons & Engine Limitations I had to make them similar in playstyle to the original 3 Sides.

As a Superweapon, For their Superweapon, the Queen Ant its a combined version costing around 5000. Much like in the original it can defend itself from attackers with Spitfire Ant Missiles for Anti-Air or Tesla Ant Bolts for Ground Targets. The Superweapon Effect of the building is a target area effect and also summons 9 Warrior Ants within the Radius.

I'm sorta in need of people to help me finish up the Voxels & SHPs for Buildings & Units.

I'll try to post some Screenshots I guess...

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lefthand
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

So how does the ant faction stand out against the other three factions? The Allies have fast, high-tech weaponry, Soviets have slow, heavy-armored units, and Yuri's side manipulates the battlefield but what about the ants?

Perhaps it is just me, but I think you should make the ant faction more unique with tech/abilities that the other factions do not have; i.e. all ant units burrow and rely on melee/short-ranged combat instead of the traditional locomotors/ranged combat.

I wouldn't bother giving ants Tesla, rad and other special abilities that are already being used by the other three factions. Just my two cents.

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Atomic_Noodles
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Practically all the Ants have very short range (2-4 grids away) or are pure Melee, the only exceptions to these are the Overlord Ant,Prism Ant,Crusher Ants.

Tesla,Rad and Psychic Ants are available only by the time they finally construct their Battle Lab, and usually just add in for extra flavor (i.e: Instant Kill Infantry from Tesla/Rad Ants,Unit Stealing from Psychic Ant)

The Colony specializes in ambush tactics (If I figure out how the burrowing works) and by overrunning the enemy with bigger numbers. Their units tend to be both fast and harder to kill. They require no power, and their "Power Plant" lets them generate some bit of Cash. Their Superweapon damages the enemy base and summons Giant Ants to harass the enemy. To balance this out, All their units & buildings are expensive. (Scout Ant, the Basic Infantry costs 600 --- Warrior Ant, the basic "Tank" costs 900)

Also, some of their units/building tend to have more than one role.
Scout Ant - Takes the role of Unit Detection, Scouting, Building Garrisoning
Rad Ant - Can be Anti-Infantry or a Suicide Bomber
Crusher Ant - High-End Defender (Ala Grand Cannon) or Siege Unit (owing to the same attack range as a Grand Cannon)

Spitfire Burrow - Serves as Anti-Air and Ground Defense

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Scorched Earth
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

For the ants to be so expensive, they should be hard to kill, no?

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Shadow Hunter
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Actually, IMO, ants should have something different, like they don't collect ore or gems, they simply make they own "money" for they ants and all, maybe instead destroying the resources in the map.

Also, i suppose they should have most of they buildings not be able to be captured, it looks too strange for an engineer to capture an colony and simply build. Confused

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Atomic_Noodles
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 4:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yep, their buildings cannot be captured by enemy Engineers, the only building that an enemy can enter in a colony base is their Battle Lab Building by Spies.

They reprocess the Ore/Gems into Nutrients so they also have a reason to take the gold as well.

The Engineers of the Colony can still repair their own buildings obviously and can capture enemy structures.

Here's some Screenshots:

Sea Drones - Uses temporarily the Dolphin's Cameo


Soviet Agent - Uses the Secret Service SHP

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