Flame Warrior

SuperJoe · Commander **Joined**: 03 Sep 2009

Cost: 350
Prerequisite: Barracks, Field Radar
Role: Anti-infantry, Anti-building
Strengths: Deadly against infantry and buildings
Weaknesses: Poor health, problems with fast targets

These pyromaniacs enjoy nothing more than setting stuff on fire. They carry a backpack full of molotov cocktails. When the molotov hits the target (or ground), it creates fires around the impact zone. Any unarmored or lightly armored targets that don't immediately move out of the way will suffer heavy burn damage. The nature of the weapon makes it very good against stationary things like structures, while it can have problems dealing with fast moving targets. The molotov is also very useful against large groups of infantry. When killed the flame warrior drops a molotov to the ground, setting anything close by on fire. This is why care needs to be taken when using them with other infantry units.

Death Cultist · Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 11:54 pm Post subject:

Call me old fashioned, but I think this unit doesn't fit with the Forgotten. Perhaps Nod?

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SuperJoe · Commander **Joined**: 03 Sep 2009

I dunno, Nod already has the devil's tongue flametank. Also using flame throwers feels kind of dated when TS takes place (around 2030?). The forgotten use outdated weapons and vehicles, so I think it fits them well. Also gameplay wise I think it works well for Forgotten, they usually have infantry doing the same role that GDI and Nod use vehicles for. Flame warrior vs. devil's tongue, mortar warrior vs. artillery / juggernaut, mechanic vs. repair vehicle / repairbay, tiberium flyer vs. sensor array.

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Death Cultist · Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 11:38 am Post subject:

Ah I can see your logic, the unit just doesn't look that mutanty if ya know what I mean?

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SuperJoe · Commander **Joined**: 03 Sep 2009

Creating new infantry is a bitch, whether you do it by 3d modeling or by editing the pixels by hand like I do. I'm just finishing up the new scout infantry for Forgotten (I'll post it up soon) and that has taken me ages, I'd rather not go through the same for the Flame Warrior. #Mad

But why doesn't it look appropriate for the Forgotten? They wear those armored suits since their main role is base assault and they have to get close to fire their weapon. Also to prevent burns from their own flamethrowers and to reduce friendly fire accidents Laughing

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Death Cultist · Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 11:54 am Post subject:

Haha yea you're right. I was just thinking you could maybe make him the Nod, chem trooper.

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SuperJoe · Commander **Joined**: 03 Sep 2009

Been thinking of changing this unit a bit. Instead of carrying a flamethrower the unit would carry a backpack full of molotovs, bit like the GDI disk thrower. The molotov wouldn't do too much damage on impact, but it would start some fires at the impact site so it would be very handy to force enemy infantry to scatter. And since buildings can't move out of the way, the unit would be very good against them. The unit would have a pretty high ROF so you order them to fire, then retreat behind other units to reload, then move in again. Think the unit would add some nice tactics into the mix, rather than the bit uninspired flamethrower infantry.

Here's a pic of the infantry shp I've been working for it:

What would be a proper name for the unit? All the Forgotten infantry follow the *** Warrior naming scheme. Flame Warrior? Fire Warrior? Or maybe something more creative...

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blubb · General **Joined**: 31 Jul 2005

Mutant women was planned as Flamethrower for the Forgotten, so yeah even in a german magazine they said mutants would have flamethrower infantry. if you look closely on the mutant women it has no muzzle flash to begin with, hat could be a hint of the previous plan , also look at the tip of the weapon, it has a blue dot, kind of like a stand-by flame.

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Team Black · Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:49 am Post subject:

I like weedguy's pants. Too bad he's a midgit though

@Blubb I actually never thought of that, but it definitely makes sense now that I think of it!

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SuperJoe · Commander **Joined**: 03 Sep 2009

blubb wrote:

Mutant women was planned as Flamethrower for the Forgotten, so yeah even in a german magazine they said mutants would have flamethrower infantry. if you look closely on the mutant women it has no muzzle flash to begin with, hat could be a hint of the previous plan , also look at the tip of the weapon, it has a blue dot, kind of like a stand-by flame.

I already used that SHP for the Shotgun Warrior.

Team Black wrote:

I like weedguy's pants. Too bad he's a midgit though

I resized the weedguy to match the other infantries (not just a quick resize, but so that all the facings look normal and not stretched out). Might as well release it to public if I remove the unit from the mod.

Anyways here's a preview of the frames I've already done for the new SHP:

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OrangeNero · Commander **Joined**: 11 Jan 2012

Fire can not be outdated XD Some nice recolored units (I guess they are?). By the way your other recolored units are also a nice sight, using some of the public ones myself so thx a lot.

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SuperJoe · Commander **Joined**: 03 Sep 2009

Cameo attempt (3rd from top right). You might be able to recognize what I based it on Laughing

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OmegaBolt · Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:06 am Post subject:

Nice, really nice.

Death Cultist · Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:47 am Post subject:

That's really neat. I like the cameo.

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Team Black · Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:16 am Post subject:

oh I see now

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SuperJoe · Commander **Joined**: 03 Sep 2009

Here's a preview of the throwing animation. Just need to do it for 7 more facings, and for prone frames #Mad

Btw is it possible to do projectiles that have multiple facings (like dragon.shp) AND are animated (like discus.shp). The flying molotov would need to have an animated fire and have multiple facings. So basically can you use all these keys on the same projectile:

Rotates=yes
AnimLow=1
AnimHigh=3
AnimRate=1

How would the actual shp need to be ordered in this case? Frames 1-3 would be the animation for facing 1, 4-6 animation for facing 2, etc?

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Crimsonum · Seth **Joined**: 14 Jul 2005 **Location**: Fineland

Are you sure you need it to have facing-specific animations? Like canister.shp, it looks fine if it just spins around every axis.

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Starkku · Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 9:17 am Post subject:

SuperJoe wrote:

Btw is it possible to do projectiles that have multiple facings (like dragon.shp) AND are animated (like discus.shp).

Unfortunately impossible. Rotates=yes only supports single frame for each facing.

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Medalmonkey · Missile Trooper **Joined**: 26 Nov 2003

SuperJoe wrote:

Here's a preview of the throwing animation. Just need to do it for 7 more facings, and for prone frames #Mad

So much fun, aint it?
Your work is amazing Superjoe! Props!

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SuperJoe · Commander **Joined**: 03 Sep 2009

Finally got the code finished for the new flame warriors. They are quite fun to use, those molotovs can kill alot of infantry, but getting a direct hit on moving enemies takes some skills. Also they have a very long reload time, so if you miss that first shot you're dead unless you have some backup. They are extremely good against structures if you manage to sneak in an APC full of them into enemy base.

Note that the SHP is still missing the firing anim, that's why they disappear momentarily when throwing.

Incoming molotovs!

This is why you don't keep a large group of flame warriors bunched up.

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Aro · Alcohol Fueled **Joined**: 10 Sep 2006

Your infantry are fantastic. Love your work. Smile

Lin Kuei Ominae · Seth **Joined**: 16 Aug 2006 **Location**: Germany

Someone really likes art.ini debris Smile

Nice job on the infantry.

btw, a nice way to create a random wall of fire is to use the IsFlamingGuy logic. Create a dummy with this so it moves randomly around and then give this one a traileranim of the flames.

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Atomic_Noodles · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Oct 2011

I'm assuming for his idle anim he juggles the molotovs around.

And maybe its just me but maybe Bombardier could also suit the name as well.

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Lin Kuei Ominae · Seth **Joined**: 16 Aug 2006 **Location**: Germany

Call him hooligan or rioter. Smile

btw, the simple animated projectile showing a continuously rotating bottle is really best here imo. At least much better than a single frame facing specific projectile.

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Atomic_Noodles · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Oct 2011

I'm guessing this is pretty much close to as you can get on the projectiles though.

Since as people said you can't have multi-directional animated Projectiles. Besides a spinning bottle looks right for this kind of thing anyway.

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Death Cultist · Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:21 am Post subject:

Cannot wait to use these maniacs, good work SuperJoe!

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Atomic_Noodles · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Oct 2011

Sent Joe some Molotov Sounds which RA3/BFME2 was using. Here's hoping for more fun in these units. Excited to play the Forgotten too. Laughing

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Krow · Commander **Joined**: 30 Jan 2010 **Location**: Malaysia

Get a new name for the unit? It doesn't feel quite right for me. Molotovier, perhaps? #Tongue

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SuperJoe · Commander **Joined**: 03 Sep 2009

Krow wrote:

Get a new name for the unit? It doesn't feel quite right for me. Molotovier, perhaps? #Tongue

All the basic forgotten infantry have Warrior in their name. Molotov Warrior might sound bit silly. Maybe Fire Warrior?

This is the animated projectile I'm using for it, it's very small (zoomed in like 10x here), and it flies so fast you can barely notice it.

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Lin Kuei Ominae · Seth **Joined**: 16 Aug 2006 **Location**: Germany

How about "napalm warrior", "torch warrior" or "Molly warrior" (molly short for molotov)?
it's a bit strange to give a unit a name based on the effect of the weapon instead of the type of weapon, when it's such a common effect like fire. It would be like "explosion tank" for a tank that fires grenades or "slash wound infantry" for a sword wielding infantry. (ok i know there is a flame tank)