Tiberian Sun Graphic Enhancement Mods

Regulus

I know, I'm on a roll. Sad

But I thought that as a sort of community bonding project, we could all pitch in to make a huge graphic enhancement modification that takes the vanilla assets and remasters them, making them up to par with the stuff our fantastic mod teams are pumping out. I think that once we find a common ground, we could come together more as a community. I don't know how we'd go about this, and I would love it if it somehow came into fruition. Just am optimistic idea, I suppose.

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Orac · Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 6:44 am Post subject:

Not just the voxels, but terrain, SHPs, everything?

Regulus · Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 6:49 am Post subject:

To be debated I suppose. The Building and Voxels are a definite. Many people don't want to make their stuff at West Wood quality, and I agree with them. I've been doing this for TS:AE. But I no longer want to. So I thought about my Remaster project, and I thought that it would be a good community bonding project, if executed properly.

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Orac · Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 6:55 am Post subject:

Don't drop TS:AE, maybe you should just finish it and begin a fresh thing, or leave AE for a rainy day Smile

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Regulus · Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 7:14 am Post subject:

Well...I considered this while working on TS:AE. I could produce WW quality work, but its not satisfying. I want something that is truly good work, and the shody graphics of TS really make it become an eye sore, all those grays and dull shades, and the lack of consistency with somethings. Like I said, just a suggestion. I know for a fact I couldn't tackle this project alone.

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Crimsonum · Seth **Joined**: 14 Jul 2005 **Location**: Fineland

Well, I've been working on a graphical enhancement project for TS for a while now, so unless this indeed becomes a community project, I could give you all the stuff I make, Regulus.

Atm all I have are modified INI files and some voxels. Infantry recolour is no problem at all.

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Regulus · Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:34 pm Post subject:

IDK. I got in the mood last night and remade the Amphibious APC again. I'll post it here.

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Aro · Alcohol Fueled **Joined**: 10 Sep 2006

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Well, I've been working on a graphical enhancement project for TS for a while now, so unless this indeed becomes a community project, I could give you all the stuff I make, Regulus.

Likewise. I've made plenty of stuff that you could find useful, from terrain to map re-makes. If this is actually going to get somewhere then I'll donate the things I've made for my own TS remake mod, but I'm not going to be making anything new for it as I don't have the time and I don't really want to comit to any other projects, TI and HW come first.

Crimsonum · Seth **Joined**: 14 Jul 2005 **Location**: Fineland

There's some annoying black areas in that APC, and it's kind of short Confused

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Regulus · Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 7:10 am Post subject:

Here is a second version I did after redoing the normals and reviewing the cutscene renders of the APC. Black dots due to normals should be gone now.

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Crimsonum · Seth **Joined**: 14 Jul 2005 **Location**: Fineland

The Gif doesn't play Razz

I'll give the APC a try myself. I made one a long time ago, but it has been lost.

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Regulus · Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 7:13 am Post subject:

Fixed GIF. I don't know how to change the resolution of my screen shots. Everything looks tiny in my game, even stock stuff. The AAPC is 40 voxels long.

Orac · Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 7:17 am Post subject:

It does look a little short - widen the distance between the two back wheels, imo
(I could do it for you, if you want Smile

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Aro · Alcohol Fueled **Joined**: 10 Sep 2006

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I'll give the APC a try myself. I made one a long time ago, but it has been lost

I've still got it, along with all your other ones. I'll send them to you once I get home.

Crimsonum · Seth **Joined**: 14 Jul 2005 **Location**: Fineland

Ok, but I still want to make one from scratch. That one was just some edit done on the original, IIRC.

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Regulus · Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 8:43 am Post subject:

With a little input from Crimsonum, we come to this version.

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Paranoia · Cyborg Specialist **Joined**: 04 Aug 2007

I've remade almost every Westwood voxel myself.. The problem with a Mod of this scale is ensuring that all the graphics conform to roughly the same style.

There is already a Mod that does a similar thing: Tiberian Sun Pro. Its graphical quality isn't up to modern standards though.

Regulus · Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 7:19 pm Post subject:

Here is the VERY latest version of my AAPC, with constructive criticism provided by Crimsonum

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Oshog · Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 8:30 pm Post subject:

Loving it.

Orac · Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 9:03 pm Post subject:

That latest one is sexy.

Regulus · Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 9:42 pm Post subject:

Messing around, I had an idea.

I animated the wheels of the APC

and it looks fantastic...at certain angles.

Some angles, particularly southeast, or east, which ever one. \ < that way
the frames jump like the whole apc is moving in the .hva animation, but clearly its not. Anyone have any ideas as to why this is?

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Lt Albrecht · Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 10:03 pm Post subject:

does it in my diesel sub too... Dunno why...

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Orac · Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 11:34 pm Post subject:

Same as my Subterranean APC with spinning drills. Silly thing... and I haven't a clue either Confused

Paranoia · Cyborg Specialist **Joined**: 04 Aug 2007

I love your voxelling style.

Regulus · Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 5:41 am Post subject:

I think for my next remaster I'm doing the Disruptor. I need to know scale though...

Any ideas?

Here is the old ass one. It's not very good, especially by my new current standard. Actually it looks like shit. Pardon my french.

Anyway. I am hesitant to make the thing too large, as it will have huge overlap issues. But if no one cares I suppose I don't either.

I think the bounds for the disruptor chassis should be

x= 27
y= 19
z= 47

And here is a reference pic, the only one, iirc.
http://www.cybergooch.com/images/tibsunarchive/DisruptorHi_res.jpg

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Oh, that's embarrassing. It's even shittyer than the TS:AE voxels, and their MENT to be somewhat shitty, as to blend in with westwood's work.

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Orac · Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 6:13 am Post subject:

IMO, it needs to be pretty big - it's one of GDI's more daunting units, after all.
I'd say:
X=29
Y=21
Z=50 (or close to 50)
I haven't actually tested that sizing out in TS, but slightly larger than the average vehicle would be good, and because it has two sets of tracks the Mammoth Tank wouldn't be a bad reference for scaling.

Crimsonum · Seth **Joined**: 14 Jul 2005 **Location**: Fineland

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Anyway. I am hesitant to make the thing too large, as it will have huge overlap issues. But if no one cares I suppose I don't either.

We know it's a problem, but you'll have a slight restriction if you wish to keep all voxel unit lengths below 42 (a cell's width is somewhat 40 voxels) #Tongue

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Orac · Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 6:20 am Post subject:

As Far as I know, 60 is withing the selection box - The TO Devil's Tongue uses a length of 60 and is still in the box.

Crimsonum · Seth **Joined**: 14 Jul 2005 **Location**: Fineland

yeah, but if you place the units in a line, they will overlap.

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Orac · Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 6:31 am Post subject:

Which is sort of annoying, but not quite annoying enough to justify tiny units #Tongue

Regulus · Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 10:28 am Post subject:

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Crimsonum · Seth **Joined**: 14 Jul 2005 **Location**: Fineland

The proportions are way off Razz

Looks like a chibi Disruptor :3 (although it's not that....small...)

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Regulus · Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 10:58 am Post subject:

What bout now?

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Paranoia · Cyborg Specialist **Joined**: 04 Aug 2007

It seems to be very tall. All depends on what it looks like with the turret.

Regulus · Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 11:21 am Post subject:

again!

oh. and its huge.

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Crimsonum · Seth **Joined**: 14 Jul 2005 **Location**: Fineland

Too short & too tall.

(note that the image is mirrored)

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Regulus · Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 11:41 am Post subject:

I prefer using the other hi def render, using the light to reference 1 voxel. Mostly because its... more recent?, The top view is the shitastic cameo render.

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Crimsonum · Seth **Joined**: 14 Jul 2005 **Location**: Fineland

I need to ask Aro if he still has that old Disruptor I made from scratch...it was pretty accurate.

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Aro · Alcohol Fueled **Joined**: 10 Sep 2006

I do. Want me to send it to you?

Regulus · Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 2:30 pm Post subject:

Increased the length again, its now at 59z

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Crimsonum · Seth **Joined**: 14 Jul 2005 **Location**: Fineland

Aro wrote:

I do. Want me to send it to you?

Please do so, I want to take a look at my old skillz Razz

(and maybe the rest of my old stuff too)

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Roadwarrior · Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 5:25 pm Post subject:

Your APC beats the Sh@t out of WW, the disruptor looks good, it'd look better with the dish.

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Crimsonum · Seth **Joined**: 14 Jul 2005 **Location**: Fineland

No! He'll never do the dish! NEVER!!!

Rolling Eyes

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Orac · Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 8:07 pm Post subject:

That Disruptor looks beautifully, amazing.
You're not secretly Chinese, are you? #Tongue

Regulus · Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 10:15 pm Post subject:

Here is the picture with the turret ingame.

Choose Letter
Fill in the blank

A: Its too __________ .

B. It needs _________ .

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Boogiewoo0 · Missile Trooper **Joined**: 24 Dec 2008

It's too awesome

It needs target practice

(although more detail couldn't hurt)

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Orac · Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 1:43 am Post subject:

It's too far backwards

it needs less ass

Or maybe the back trackset needs to be moved a couple of voxels further backwards.

Machine · Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 2:12 am Post subject:

It's too plain

it needs remap ingame

This, specially in the case of the APC, it looks really plain. The remap colors blend too much.

Regulus · Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:01 am Post subject:

Orac wrote:

It's too far backwards

it needs less ass

Lol, everyone else was telling me it was too short.

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Regulus · Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:09 am Post subject:

Here is a shortened version... with less ass.

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