no no no. you steal a tank from the military and run around smashing zombies under your threads _________________ Please, I DON'T read the signature rules of the forum. QUICK_EDIT
ztype all the options. What you need is a Mk14Mod0 EBR, a load of 7.62 Nato, a group of fellow survivors and the most compelling backstory... _________________ Yes, work on MV continues. It is not forgotten. QUICK_EDIT
I've said it before and I'll say it again: get a car and go on a rampage through the streets, running over as many of those shitbags as possible MWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
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Then you roun out of fuel and get devoured. I'll watch and laugh from a secure rooftop... _________________ Yes, work on MV continues. It is not forgotten. QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 4:22 pm Post subject:
Get a few EATR robots, modify them so they can eat animal flesh (though AFAIK, all they would need to do so, might be just some stronger grinder device, and a change in programing). also add some armor, and leave them free where the zombies are, also adding some chainsaws to them migth be a good idea. Finally just watch as how the robots devour the zombies .
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Unless zombies gain some super power that makes them able to differentiate a living human from a scarecrow, 1/1 scale doll or a lamppost, when I go out I'll copy exactly what the zombies do if I want to get to my destination.
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 2:16 pm Post subject:
some cyborgs = zombie + robot in one
(Borgs, cyborg from TS)
question is what kind of cyborg is shyborg
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 5:32 pm Post subject:
Machine wrote:
some chainsaws
Fun Fact: Chainsaws would hardly be effective in a Zombie-apoc.
Similar to the Katana misconception in a way.
The Chainsaw version of this is that they rev up a chainsaw and walk through walls of z's with the heads falling off en masse. In reality, a chainsaw would be able to kill a couple of zombies before the blades would get fucked up and require replacement. (replacement would be dangerous too, considering the amount of infected blood and gore that would be on the chainsaw...)
@Destiny- Almost all zombie fiction has them going after their targets not by sight, but by other means like smell and hearing (going by your logic, they would end up attacking each other and the whole apocalypse concept would die, as the first infected people would attack each other rather than propagate whatever causes zombification).
That said, imitating zombie actions would just get you eaten in a rather amusing way, or shot at by humans who would normally help and protect you.
@Inzane_Krazy- Hardly a threat unless they somehow retain their shooting skills, knowledge on complex motor functions like reloading, knowledge on ammunition locations, oh, and maybe operating the safety.
Also, tanks would hardly be effective on Zeds. Unless by some miracle you got all canister/flechette rounds loaded up, the vehicle will be loaded with mostly DU/Tungsten AP rounds, which would only give the zombies nice big holes in their bodies (lets be real, tank cannon headshots happen only in APB and Renegade). Crushing zombies wouldn't be that easy either. Your tank would hit them, but only zombies in the path of the tracks would be smashed. The rest would end up under the tank after getting knocked down and would simply get back up. (unless you jury rig something to compensate for this)
What Ixonoclast said is actually quite accurate. Medieval Plate Armor would be excellent protection from traditional zombies. Fairly light and maneuverable, and with under layers, you would be pretty hard to stop. The only issue is that you would be roasting with the sun out, and if you don't have proper physical conditioning, you would probably find yourself better off without it. _________________ YR modder/artist, DOOM mapper, aka evanb90
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Also Known As: evanb90 Joined: 20 Feb 2005 Location: o kawaii koto
Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 5:58 pm Post subject:
Neither provides the complete protection of a plate armor suit. There are no uncovered spots in a proper full suit of plate armor.
But the likelihood of obtaining a Dragonskin vest is relatively equal to obtaining a full suit of plate armor.
Dragonskin would indefinitely be better overall (when viewed in respect to all of the threats of a zombie apocalypse, not just zombies), as it would provide protection from firearms and is much lighter as well. Plate armor MIGHT stop 9mm rounds, I wouldn't even be sure about that. _________________ YR modder/artist, DOOM mapper, aka evanb90
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Plate armour will probably stop low calibre weapons or weak weapons, most people don't know that "bulletproof" came from the Renaissance when every suit of plate armour was tested by firing a musket at it point blank.
Dream armour combination would be some nice soft underclothes, bulletproof vest over that, and plate armour on top of that.
Nothing can hurt you, except for a serious hit with a warhammer, a big axe or a high-powered modern firearm.
...now that's an idea...
EVA, wanna fire up your zombie mod again?
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It's nice to talk about having access to all this military stuff, but what about normal people? Whats a kid in suburbia got to do to survive? I think that conversation is more interesting. Does the kid have access to suits of armor and bulletproof vests? No. Long sword and tanks? No. So the question is: how will YOU survive the apoc, not master chief and the doom guy. _________________ Please, read the signature rules of the forum. QUICK_EDIT
Now Romero zombies... THAT'S a problem. Because they're supernatural/alien... Hence why the military was unable to stop them.
However, if you take a look at some other zombie fiction...
28 Days/Weeks Later shows us a military that is quite capable of keeping the infection contained. Life (lol) continues.
Warhammer 40,000 puts the concept of a "zombie-apocalypse" in an even sillier light.
Zombies are smalltime in the 40k Universe. The Imperial Guard call warfare against zombies "vacation".
But that was expected in a universe where the average death-mech has more guns than all American forts on the East-coast together.
My point, unless the zombies have some kind of MacGuffin(Romero's Venus dust, Prototype's Mercer) that protects them, they'll all be cleaned up easily by the military. Some people will die, but it won't become a zombie-apocalypse.
Romero zombies?
I'll just take an overdose on medicines, in a situation that makes my resurrection as a zombie impossible.
Realistic zombies?
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Also Known As: evanb90 Joined: 20 Feb 2005 Location: o kawaii koto
Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 7:25 pm Post subject:
DaFool wrote:
It's nice to talk about having access to all this military stuff, but what about normal people? Whats a kid in suburbia got to do to survive? I think that conversation is more interesting. Does the kid have access to suits of armor and bulletproof vests? No. Long sword and tanks? No. So the question is: how will YOU survive the apoc, not master chief and the doom guy.
I talked about this quite a while ago in this topic.
The reality is almost everybody here who isn't in the military or hasn't had some experience using actual weaponry (of the melee or projectile kind) is doomed if they don't team up with people who have such skills. You may survive a few days, a few weeks or months, but you won't survive the whole thing.
Ixonoclast wrote:
Plate armour will probably stop low calibre weapons or weak weapons, most people don't know that "bulletproof" came from the Renaissance when every suit of plate armour was tested by firing a musket at it point blank.
Dream armour combination would be some nice soft underclothes, bulletproof vest over that, and plate armour on top of that.
Nothing can hurt you, except for a serious hit with a warhammer, a big axe or a high-powered modern firearm.
...now that's an idea...
EVA, wanna fire up your zombie mod again?
I just came up with a faction for it... an alliance of museum staff and a SWAT team...
Yes, it was the method of proofing. The decline of armored infantry was largely because of how expensive it was to train such units, and because it was cheaper to teach a peasant to fire a musket, not necessarily because of the gun's ability to pierce armor.
But most modern firearms, even small ones pack quite a bit more punch than the ones that threatened the plate armored heavy infantry of the past.
@Z-Mod- Only if. Having guys with melee weapons and armor suits would be hilarious in the mod. _________________ YR modder/artist, DOOM mapper, aka evanb90
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BTW, something I wanted to PM you a while ago but kept forgetting...
...you said that infantry crushing would make tanks too powerful. What about giving zombies an "exploding" death? I doubt that grinding over hundreds of wildly flailing people is good for the tank engine and treads.
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Ok, Eva has a point, everyone with no weapon skills are doomed, but also heres the other problem, most of the stuff suggested here only point out to the NORMAL and CLASSIC brain-noming zombie, but what about the other types? like the big guys...sure anyone can crack up a zombie variant and give them a weakness, but who knows for sure?
Surely, everyone has a fire axe nearby, unless someone took it before you xD, that's probly the closest weapon you can have besides guns, if a fire axe can break doors down, it definitely will bring a man down ( a zombie man xD)
another thing, if your in the big city, what would you guys try to do? I'd run to my roof and wait for halp, unless the zombies had some sort of thing that shoots biological goop that melts things _________________ Please, I DON'T read the signature rules of the forum. QUICK_EDIT
Surely, everyone has a fire axe nearby, unless someone took it before you xD, that's probly the closest weapon you can have besides guns, if a fire axe can break doors down, it definitely will bring a man down ( a zombie man xD)
Axes are good, better than swords, but you'll still risk that your axe gets stuck in bone.
Better get a bludgeoning weapon. It's just like in RPG's. Undead are extra vulnerable to crushing damage.
Metal pipe is nice. Crowbar is better. A big hammer is even better... But a medieval warhammer is better.
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@Sindri: Didn't think about pipes, I guess you could resort to those whatever is near you if you can't find a proper weapon
But the question is, where would you get weapons such as Warhammers and medieval aged swords? and Aren't those swords abit too heavy? _________________ Please, I DON'T read the signature rules of the forum. QUICK_EDIT
The museums have ancient ones, and they probly lost their durability over the course of time.
about weight, Bastard Swords and Broad Swords seem so heavy...but your right about Katanas being really heavy, the guys who make those fold steel ALOT _________________ Please, I DON'T read the signature rules of the forum. QUICK_EDIT
yea, its really fast due to the fact that it has rubber on its threads and a freaking jet engine _________________ Please, I DON'T read the signature rules of the forum. QUICK_EDIT
In theory you should just use those rollers they use for flattening roads...in practice you might be pulled off unless it's a closed cabin one, but meh. _________________ Please, read the signature rules of the forum. QUICK_EDIT
From the game "Clutch", russian version of a racing game I love
It clearly shows how easy it is to kill those zombies by dirtying your sportscar a bit (zomg da car has a grinder up it's front O_O). _________________ The future belongs to The Forgotten! QUICK_EDIT
fashion an axe out of a lawn mower blade and a baseball bat, make some low grade explosives out of household products, dig some bear pits (holes with wooden spikes on the bottom), sleep up high in trees. make sure you watch Home Alone. _________________ Please, read the signature rules of the forum. QUICK_EDIT
lol, lets try being realistic here for once xD, instead of going all...OMG ZOMBIES, IMA GRAB MAH AWESOME LAZOR PEW PEW!
@FF: yea, you dont have cars with blades, and you practically can't drive a car around in a zombocalypse, mainly due to the fact that they'll probly be crowded up in big numbers and driving over a big crowds will kill you, rather than save you
well, we all probly will be in different situations, and it will actually depend on what we can do, so I'd just be creative and hope I'm not in one of those Point-and-click horror zombie game type of situation lol :3 _________________ Please, I DON'T read the signature rules of the forum. QUICK_EDIT
And noise also attracts the bigger zombies, lol, I should stop referring to L4D xD _________________ Please, I DON'T read the signature rules of the forum. QUICK_EDIT
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